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		<title>By: mma</title>
		<link>http://desedo.com/blog/horse-racing-and-dog-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>mma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this blog very interesting, i will be here everyday till now. Greetings</description>
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		<title>By: Sports Guru</title>
		<link>http://desedo.com/blog/horse-racing-and-dog-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>Sports Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Horse racing, canid fighting, all of it. [Desedo] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JA</title>
		<link>http://desedo.com/blog/horse-racing-and-dog-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>JA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bike racers are like human horses.</description>
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		<title>By: MHB</title>
		<link>http://desedo.com/blog/horse-racing-and-dog-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>MHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean:  Totally agree with you that dogs are abused far more than horses in their respective sports.  But the fact remains that both animals are being physically conditioned and pushed beyond what they would do in a domestic or natural environment and often to a deadly end. 

Beyond that, you have the manners of a cur.

@Chris: In regards to your comment: &quot;...horses are bred for speed. Fighting dogs are bred for an ability to never give up when fighting. I hope you can see the difference.&quot; Of course there is a difference, and I think that your comparison of dog/horse to MMA/Track &amp; Field is spot on.  Racing is far better than fighting, and is not rooted in a celebration of violence &amp; death.  But the fact remains that all of these animals are being BRED for the best interest of the owners.  Horse owners/breeders surely do love their animals, but that love lies within the rubric of racing, and subjecting their bodies to potentially fatal activity.  See EJ&#039;s comment #4.  And keep in mind that for every horse who ends up in the winner&#039;s circle, many more are silently shipped to the glue factory.  


@Everyone Else: Thanks for elucidating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean:  Totally agree with you that dogs are abused far more than horses in their respective sports.  But the fact remains that both animals are being physically conditioned and pushed beyond what they would do in a domestic or natural environment and often to a deadly end. </p>
<p>Beyond that, you have the manners of a cur.</p>
<p>@Chris: In regards to your comment: &#8220;&#8230;horses are bred for speed. Fighting dogs are bred for an ability to never give up when fighting. I hope you can see the difference.&#8221; Of course there is a difference, and I think that your comparison of dog/horse to MMA/Track &#038; Field is spot on.  Racing is far better than fighting, and is not rooted in a celebration of violence &#038; death.  But the fact remains that all of these animals are being BRED for the best interest of the owners.  Horse owners/breeders surely do love their animals, but that love lies within the rubric of racing, and subjecting their bodies to potentially fatal activity.  See EJ&#8217;s comment #4.  And keep in mind that for every horse who ends up in the winner&#8217;s circle, many more are silently shipped to the glue factory.  </p>
<p>@Everyone Else: Thanks for elucidating.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://desedo.com/blog/horse-racing-and-dog-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the owners have a ton of money invested in these horses, not to mention time and love. To say that greed rules horse racing is absurd&quot;

So which is it?

The horse needs to win in order for breeding to be worth anything...therefore the decision to race was about greed...more more acuretly stated: greed and glory.  The owners of these horses aren&#039;t risking their lives, or even injury.  Hell, most of them are so rich that the loss of a million dollar horse doesn&#039;t have an impact on their lifestyle.

There are racing fans here defending the sport, but don&#039;t bury your head in the sand.  This is two years in a row now (not even halfway through the second year) where a horse was killed because of racing.  This is just the highest level, the treatment is probably much worse in the lower ranks.

Your defense appears to be the intent of racing, but the fact is you are forcing animals to do things they don&#039;t want to do, the same as dog fighting...your motivation is irrelevent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the owners have a ton of money invested in these horses, not to mention time and love. To say that greed rules horse racing is absurd&#8221;</p>
<p>So which is it?</p>
<p>The horse needs to win in order for breeding to be worth anything&#8230;therefore the decision to race was about greed&#8230;more more acuretly stated: greed and glory.  The owners of these horses aren&#8217;t risking their lives, or even injury.  Hell, most of them are so rich that the loss of a million dollar horse doesn&#8217;t have an impact on their lifestyle.</p>
<p>There are racing fans here defending the sport, but don&#8217;t bury your head in the sand.  This is two years in a row now (not even halfway through the second year) where a horse was killed because of racing.  This is just the highest level, the treatment is probably much worse in the lower ranks.</p>
<p>Your defense appears to be the intent of racing, but the fact is you are forcing animals to do things they don&#8217;t want to do, the same as dog fighting&#8230;your motivation is irrelevent.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to draw a comparison between dog fighting and horse racing is pretty retarded.  One has pits for dogs to fight each other, often to the death.  If a dog doesn&#039;t do well, they are often killed.  In horse racing, they have a track and the horses race each other.  When they don&#039;t do well they keep trying or are retired, not killed.  You might notice that racing is different than fighting (often to the death).  

Also, horses are bred for speed.  Fighting dogs are bred for an ability to never give up when fighting.  Again, I hope you can see the difference.

There are certainly things I would change about horse racing:  no whipping, no racing on pain meds and no drugs in general.  But the owners have a ton of money invested in these horses, not to mention time and love.  To say that greed rules horse racing is absurd--otherwise they would have done everything posible to keep the 2nd place finisher of the kentucky derby alive so they could breed for money.  This is like comparing mma and track and field.  And making it racial is pretty much the lowest common denominator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to draw a comparison between dog fighting and horse racing is pretty retarded.  One has pits for dogs to fight each other, often to the death.  If a dog doesn&#8217;t do well, they are often killed.  In horse racing, they have a track and the horses race each other.  When they don&#8217;t do well they keep trying or are retired, not killed.  You might notice that racing is different than fighting (often to the death).  </p>
<p>Also, horses are bred for speed.  Fighting dogs are bred for an ability to never give up when fighting.  Again, I hope you can see the difference.</p>
<p>There are certainly things I would change about horse racing:  no whipping, no racing on pain meds and no drugs in general.  But the owners have a ton of money invested in these horses, not to mention time and love.  To say that greed rules horse racing is absurd&#8211;otherwise they would have done everything posible to keep the 2nd place finisher of the kentucky derby alive so they could breed for money.  This is like comparing mma and track and field.  And making it racial is pretty much the lowest common denominator.</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Co-sign like a mother.  I&#039;m gonna kill a dog this summer while I wear a seersucker suit and my boater hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Co-sign like a mother.  I&#8217;m gonna kill a dog this summer while I wear a seersucker suit and my boater hat.</p>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Sean&#039;s rationale. Listen, whipping is ok, buuuut not tooo much. 

So there is a line in which beating the horse is ok and that one extra whip is what turns it into a negative? You have even too many qualifiers in your argument to withstand the critique of three commenters. Come with something stronger to defend the indefensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Sean&#8217;s rationale. Listen, whipping is ok, buuuut not tooo much. </p>
<p>So there is a line in which beating the horse is ok and that one extra whip is what turns it into a negative? You have even too many qualifiers in your argument to withstand the critique of three commenters. Come with something stronger to defend the indefensible.</p>
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		<title>By: ej</title>
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		<dc:creator>ej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sean - jockeys use very short &quot;bats&quot; that would never reach the correct part of a horse&#039;s body to guide a him left or right in order to avoid running in to another horse. Plus, have you ever seen a jockey switch the bat from one hand to the other? So really it would only be useful to guiding one direction (if it was longer) - and that just doesn&#039;t sound useful.

Also guys... the little lady didn&#039;t die of being whipped or going too fast. Any horse (or other prey animal for that matter) is biologically designed to run hard and fast for long distances. The problem is the AGE at which the horses are starting to race - their baby bones can&#039;t handle the intensity, and break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sean &#8211; jockeys use very short &#8220;bats&#8221; that would never reach the correct part of a horse&#8217;s body to guide a him left or right in order to avoid running in to another horse. Plus, have you ever seen a jockey switch the bat from one hand to the other? So really it would only be useful to guiding one direction (if it was longer) &#8211; and that just doesn&#8217;t sound useful.</p>
<p>Also guys&#8230; the little lady didn&#8217;t die of being whipped or going too fast. Any horse (or other prey animal for that matter) is biologically designed to run hard and fast for long distances. The problem is the AGE at which the horses are starting to race &#8211; their baby bones can&#8217;t handle the intensity, and break.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sean, he didn&#039;t write that stuff on whipping, the writer was the breeder of the horse that won the 2001 Kentucky Derby, so I&#039;m pretty sure he knows more about horse racing than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sean, he didn&#8217;t write that stuff on whipping, the writer was the breeder of the horse that won the 2001 Kentucky Derby, so I&#8217;m pretty sure he knows more about horse racing than you do.</p>
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